GAME THREAD: Steelers v. Devils.. Sun, 14th November.

[SteelerBlade]

I thought Fox was too laid back and accepting of the game result and performance in the post game interview.

Oh well. Glad to see he was ok about that humiliation and humiliating performance.

Having listening to the pod cast he did seem to come across as not overally bothered about the result.

Whilst over a long season there will inevitably be nights like that, it would have been nice if he could have aplogised a little to the 7,500+ that turned up for the poor performance.

He never sounds particularly happy when we win to be fair, he’s more of a level headed not too high not too low kind of guy.

[kgw]

The goal tending situation is a joke to be honest sorry I’m going to be harsh but we have a goalie that’s come in unfit and past his best, another thats a good backup at best but not league winning. Surely the money we’re paying them both would equate to a decent goalie? Brust is tied into a uni deal, I’d wager in hindsight Aaron would of gone a different Approach.

That "good backup" is currently sitting at the top of the goalie stats table on GAA and save percentage.

https://www.eliteleague.co.uk/stats/goa ... id_stage=1

[DimTim]

Devils played 2 men high & pressured our D whenever we had the puck. The D struggled to find a colleague as very little time to think and also had difficulty exiting the D zone. Numerous time Devils picked up the puck on the blue line.

Cardiff created the turnovers - whilst Fox can show disappointment that the first 3 goals came from turnovers - they were earned!

[smbmetal]

I thought Fox was too laid back and accepting of the game result and performance in the post game interview.

Oh well. Glad to see he was ok about that humiliation and humiliating performance.

Having listening to the pod cast he did seem to come across as not overally bothered about the result.

Whilst over a long season there will inevitably be nights like that, it would have been nice if he could have aplogised a little to the 7,500+ that turned up for the poor performance.

He never sounds particularly happy when we win to be fair, he’s more of a level headed not too high not too low kind of guy.

Which is fine.

However a lot of people paid good money to watch an extremely poor game. The least he could do would be to acknowledge that and apologise a little to the fans, like he has when we’ve won and he’s acknowledged the great support.

I’m afraid I do accept a 5-0 thrashing at home by one of our nearest title rivals. We wouldn’t have scored if we were still playing now.

[raetiamann]

Some strange score lines in the league this season, with the big four all suffering 5 goal or more defeats, Cardiff, Nottingham and us at home. Three HoS defeats already isn't good though.

So I'm unsurprised by the scoreline, but shocked by the manner of the defeat. Talk about rolling over; where was the spark, the energy, the leadership?

When Rob Wilson was coach in Newcastle, they played with 13 or 14 players for a month or more (with only 4D) and I'm sure they were more difficult to beat. It's all in the mind.

[paul johnston]

As with a few guys on here the manner of the defeat was amazing. We did literally roll over and let it happen. We weren't even second best on any shift in the whole 60 minutes. For a home game, against a big rival, with such a big crowd, was a big shock.
There was no change in game plan or attitude from the players after each period break. Im assuming Fox didn't do any rollicking because the same lacklustre showing continued. As for Rok, then Brust, then Rok again. Never seen anything like it.
It seemed the coach and team were happy to accept the defeat without any visible attempt to raise their game performance level.
I actually didn't even think the Devils performance was as good as an away 5-0 shut put would suggest.

Despite our lofty position in both league and challenge Cup standings I do think there are worrying signs.
I would say we have at least 2-3 players who are consistently underwhelming with their performances and in normal circumstances would be at risk. This year I suspect more tolerance.
Outwith of that forward lines aren't settled (hard I know with recent Injuries), there appears to be a lack of grit, character and leadership at times.

[Ron 25]

After reading the Inferno, I see the Devil's fans are promising all kinds of dire retribution to be visited on Ellerby by Louis. And they're also wanting Cons sorted out. It reminds me of my days in the schoolyard, "So and so is going to get you at playtime". If any such punishment is dished out, like the pre-arranged fights of the old days, in my eyes it makes them just as bad as the original perpetrators. Ellerby's hit was illegal and probably premeditated. The "punishment" was doled out on match night, and subsequently by DOPS. Louis clearly punched Ellerby when he was turtled, yet that gets no mention.

[Jayboy]

After reading the Inferno, I see the Devil's fans are promising all kinds of dire retribution to be visited on Ellerby by Louis. And they're also wanting Cons sorted out. It reminds me of my days in the schoolyard, "So and so is going to get you at playtime". If any such punishment is dished out, like the pre-arranged fights of the old days, in my eyes it makes them just as bad as the original perpetrators. Ellerby's hit was illegal and probably premeditated. The "punishment" was doled out on match night, and subsequently by DOPS. Louis clearly punched Ellerby when he was turtled, yet that gets no mention.

It's all completely hot air by a bunch of high rate fans, they can't promise anything short of turning up to boo if they wish. DOPS as ruled rightly or wrongly and I would take issue with saying it was probably premeditated, because there is no way he would have been able to plan that action in that exact way and know how and when to do it, which is what premeditation is (thought out and planned) Louis and or Cardiff would then stand accused of the same premeditated action.. and I very much doubt anyone in the Cardiff dressing room is listening to the fans or other social media on this incident. Yes it was a awful hit and he deserved to be punished, and he has been and hopefully we dont see a repeat. but it's getting to be a bit of a witch hunt now led by the social media circus.. this time next month it will be cyber code hidden online somewhere!

Premeditated
/(ˌ)priːˈmɛdɪteɪtɪd/

(of an action, especially a crime) thought out or planned beforehand.

[NeilAPercy99]

I’m a Cardiff fan and I don’t understand why people are getting wound up by it. Louis did the right thing by his teammate on the night. The play was reviewed and the ban the right amount compared to other hits that have had bans.

I hope you’re right about the Devils room not taking notice and am pretty sure you are. If the players get obsessed with payback or targeting Connolly it’s going to mean they’re not focusing on getting the win.


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[fridaysfinger]

After reading the Inferno, I see the Devil's fans are promising all kinds of dire retribution to be visited on Ellerby by Louis. And they're also wanting Cons sorted out. It reminds me of my days in the schoolyard, "So and so is going to get you at playtime". If any such punishment is dished out, like the pre-arranged fights of the old days, in my eyes it makes them just as bad as the original perpetrators. Ellerby's hit was illegal and probably premeditated. The "punishment" was doled out on match night, and subsequently by DOPS. Louis clearly punched Ellerby when he was turtled, yet that gets no mention.

It's all completely hot air by a bunch of high rate fans, they can't promise anything short of turning up to boo if they wish. DOPS as ruled rightly or wrongly and I would take issue with saying it was probably premeditated, because there is no way he would have been able to plan that action in that exact way and know how and when to do it, which is what premeditation is (thought out and planned) Louis and or Cardiff would then stand accused of the same premeditated action.. and I very much doubt anyone in the Cardiff dressing room is listening to the fans or other social media on this incident. Yes it was a awful hit and he deserved to be punished, and he has been and hopefully we dont see a repeat. but it's getting to be a bit of a witch hunt now led by the social media circus.. this time next month it will be cyber code hidden online somewhere!

Premeditated
/(ˌ)priːˈmɛdɪteɪtɪd/

(of an action, especially a crime) thought out or planned beforehand.

Jay,
My point of view through Devils specs
With regards the premeditated circumstance, you are correct in that Ellerby didn't set out that evening planning on making a hit to the head of any sort.
What I would say though is that 8-10 feet from the boards he saw Duggan in that position' had the opportunity to not go through with the hit but decided to go for it.
In that respect, it was a planned action.
With regards to the promised retribution on the Inferno, my opinion is that Ellerby should/will be asked to fight and he should take it. He's not been shy of dropping the gloves in his career.
For anyone saying he has already faced up to Louis is wrong in my opinion, he dropped to the ice as soon as he could for protection. Yes Louis put a couple of punches in when he was down but they were to his helmet. Not right and not Louis's style but probably showed his frustration with Ellerby
He should fight early in the game and have done with it. He may actually win the fight.
After that nothing else should carry over from previous game, such as the stuff that's been mentioned on the Inferno.
Just my opinion as someone that doesn't have to do the fighting!!!!