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What does he need to do now... :hey:

Only the most biased Orange tinted fan would not see the warning signs.. but let's not be overly negative.

We may go on a 10 game winning streak, then all would look great, I hope we do, but I am positive the team needs a few tweaks pretty early for that to happen.. I was however very happy to see the team sticking up for each other and the feisty style of play..

Your thoughts on Aaron Fox and his season ahead..
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I've got a lot of time for Aaron Fox but I'm concerned he may be showing his limitations, at least in the recruitment side of things. Only time will tell I suppose.

It's how we react to defeats that will be key.
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That’s a difficult question. He’s recruited these players and this team, he sets them up to play.

No coach will stand up and say they have got it wrong.

His setting up of a D Corps is woefully lacking, he seems to not think that back end toughness is needed. This means we have a totally unbalanced team.

It doesn’t take the brains of a genius to see the issues.

More’s the question is why?

Are we no longer interested in trophies and more in entertainment, bums on seats? Is he being guided/influenced about on ice expectations by those behind the scenes.
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Sully wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:10 pm
That’s a difficult question. He’s recruited these players and this team, he sets them up to play.

No coach will stand up and say they have got it wrong.

His setting up of a D Corps is woefully lacking, he seems to not think that back end toughness is needed. This means we have a totally unbalanced team.

It doesn’t take the brains of a genius to see the issues.

More’s the question is why?

Are we no longer interested in trophies and more in entertainment, bums on seats? Is he being guided/influenced about on ice expectations by those behind the scenes.
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Fox's d corps are repeatedly over-offensive, it's good to have slightly offensive qualities, but not full on. We've especially seen it this preseason, we seem to lose more on penalty kills like in Manchester.

Apart from that I don't think he's half bad at his job.
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I've got to be honest and go against the flow a little here. I really dont see this has being a case of Steelers Management and owner putting entertainment above everything, that in my view is simple not true and more of a knee jerk reaction to losing games and seeing great advances in match night activities and adding 2+2 together and getting 5.

The Steelers owner Tony Smith will want more than anything to put a winning team together (yes I know him enough to say this) but here's the rub, he hires a coach to do just that and he has to put his faith in Aaron Fox to do just that.

Sheffield Steelers is a sporting business like any other and as a sporting occasion aimed squarely at a competing market, the club just can not rely on the old guard hockey supporters who want to sit on their hands all night and watch hockey.. that WILL NOT bring in the fans and as some say put bums on seats. I have absolutely no beef at all with the club selling 50/50 all night long, giving away free burgers, dance cam and Baby shark when a baby is on the cam and I can't believe I am saying this, but even bloody Sweet Caroline..

Tony knows the only way to keep those bums on seats is to invest in a winning team and a winning mentality and if any of you think he is more interested in entertaining fans on a brand new jumbotron or firing rubber pucks at Steeler Dan you are wrong..

sure those things matter and are completely part of the package, the very same package at EVERY NHL game ive ever been to..

But Aaron Fox is charged with bringing us silverware and winning, if not we could literally build a Storm Esq team full of knuckle draggers and clowns for half the money we currently allocate Aaron in the team budget and we would win precisely nothing but get entertained..

Will Aaron Fox manage to use the budget to build a winning team is the question to me? I honestly dont think the integrity of the owners and management on whether there is a will for that to happen is questionable..
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I wonder if being Head Coach and GM is a factor? Is he missing another expert voice when it comes to recruitment?
Be interested in the views of others who have been following Steelers and EIHL for a lot longer than me.
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Jayboy wrote:
Sun Sep 11, 2022 12:47 pm
I've got to be honest and go against the flow a little here. I really dont see this has being a case of Steelers Management and owner putting entertainment above everything, that in my view is simple not true and more of a knee jerk reaction to losing games and seeing great advances in match night activities and adding 2+2 together and getting 5.

The Steelers owner Tony Smith will want more than anything to put a winning team together (yes I know him enough to say this) but here's the rub, he hires a coach to do just that and he has to put his faith in Aaron Fox to do just that.

Sheffield Steelers is a sporting business like any other and as a sporting occasion aimed squarely at a competing market, the club just can not rely on the old guard hockey supporters who want to sit on their hands all night and watch hockey.. that WILL NOT bring in the fans and as some say put bums on seats. I have absolutely no beef at all with the club selling 50/50 all night long, giving away free burgers, dance cam and Baby shark when a baby is on the cam and I can't believe I am saying this, but even bloody Sweet Caroline..

Tony knows the only way to keep those bums on seats is to invest in a winning team and a winning mentality and if any of you think he is more interested in entertaining fans on a brand new jumbotron or firing rubber pucks at Steeler Dan you are wrong..

sure those things matter and are completely part of the package, the very same package at EVERY NHL game ive ever been to..

But Aaron Fox is charged with bringing us silverware and winning, if not we could literally build a Storm Esq team full of knuckle draggers and clowns for half the money we currently allocate Aaron in the team budget and we would win precisely nothing but get entertained..

Will Aaron Fox manage to use the budget to build a winning team is the question to me? I honestly dont think the integrity of the owners and management on whether there is a will for that to happen is questionable..
I would agree Jay that Tony and the management team want success. A lot of money is ploughed into the Steelers so I would be worried if Tony & team aren’t interested in winning trophies. You’re right it’s a sporting business and needs to be run as such.

However, from the outside looking in, it does appear that success is SECONDARY as long as there’s bums on seats, lots of 50/50 sales and free burgers. That’s purely my view. Thing is, bums on seats and all will fade away if the Steelers don’t compete and are successful. I’m not sure Aaron Fox is the man to lead us to the success we need.

My biggest beef though Jay, is that certain members of the club look at some of the fans with disdain and can’t stand it if anyone dares step out of line and justifiably criticise any of the club. The Thompson debacle showed the Steelers management team in their true colours.

It’s a few years since the Steelers were the benchmark for the league and I for one can’t stand it. One trophy in 5 years is it? Is that good enough? I don’t think so. If Tony & team are all about success, then further changes are needed to compete better for it. Both Cardiff and Belfast are ahead of us already this season IMO.
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Think it’s far too early to worry yet. We created more than enough chances to do better yesterday, two irons, a missed breakaway & a host of good saves by Bowns.

Need to be more clinical in front of goal if we want to trouble the trophy chasers this year.

We are prone to a poor D error or 2 which also cost us yesterday.

Few tweaks at both ends as we begin to gel will improve us, to what extent only time will tell.
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Aaron won a trophy his first season when he was given a high budget to compete with.

https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/ice-hoc ... ree-488869

I think it’s a simple case of he’s been given a good budget but not enough to challenge Belfast and Cardiffs.
If the rumours accounts on Twitter this off season were to be believed and I don’t see why they shouldn’t they were pretty accurate, we lost out on four or five quality players one of which went to our nearest and dearest! (Hammond)and 2 others who I would class as quality stay at home D amongst the missed opportunities I don’t think recruitment as gone well for Aaron this year.
I recall a certain mr Thompson facing the same issues. My belief is that we would still be facing the same issues if Adam Keefe or Andrew Lord were at the helm. Manchester United in recent years have had the same problem.
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